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studies – banking – standing orders and direct
debits
38/1
standing order – whether bank responsible for missing
payments after failing to change details of account number
and
then allocating account number to a different customer
When Miss V came to the UK for a one-year
post-graduate course, she rented a property close to the
university. At the request of her landlord, Mr J, she opened
a bank account at the branch where he had his account. Miss
V set up a standing order from this new account to pay her
monthly rent of £800 into Mr J’s account.
Almost a year later, just before Miss
V’s course finished, Mr J contacted her to complain
that she was behind with the rent. Miss V was certain that
couldn’t be right. She made a point of checking her
bank statements every month and knew that all the payments
had been made. But Mr J was adamant – so Miss V got
in touch with the bank to try to find out what had happened.
The bank confirmed what Miss V already
knew; the payments had all been properly made from her account.
Miss V went back to Mr J with that information. Mr J finally
accepted her story, but he then complained to the bank,
because he had never received the payments in question.
The bank’s investigation revealed
that Mr J had transferred his bank accounts offshore shortly
after Miss V set up the standing order. It was the bank
that had suggested he should do this. Mr J was not resident
in the UK but had about 50 properties in the UK that he
let out. Most of his tenants – like Miss V –
had set up accounts with the same bank. And as part of the
process of transferring Mr J’s accounts offshore,
the bank had agreed to alter all the tenants’ standing
orders so that their rent was paid into one of Mr J’s
new offshore accounts. Unfortunately, however, it overlooked
Miss V’s standing order.
The problem was compounded because, within
a few weeks of transferring Mr J’s accounts offshore,
the bank reallocated one of his old account numbers to another
customer. This customer had received Miss V’s rent
payments for nine months, without querying the payments,
and had then withdrawn all the money and closed the account.
Mr J asked the bank to pay him a total of £15,000
– comprising the lost rent of £7,200, plus a
significant amount for ‘distress and acute embarrassment
of loss of face with my tenant.’
But the bank offered Mr J only £1,600
– the equivalent of the first two months’ rent.
It said that, as an experienced landlord, he should have
spotted much sooner than he did that he was not getting
the rent payments. Dissatisfied with this offer, Mr J brought
his complaint to us.
complaint settled
Mr J had not been under any legal obligation to check his
bank statements. However, we concluded that he might reasonably
have spotted the mistake at an earlier stage. The rent from
his properties appeared to be Mr J’s main source of
income, and although he was not resident in the UK, he made
frequent visits and looked after the properties himself
– rather than using a managing agent.
It took quite a few phone calls, but we
managed to mediate a settlement whereby the bank paid Mr
J a sum equivalent to half of the missing rent (£3,600),
rounded up to £4,000 to cover lost interest and to
provide some allowance for the inconvenience he had experienced.
We
later found out from the bank that it had also received a
complaint from Miss V for ‘distress and acute embarrassment
of loss of face with my landlord’. That dispute
was not referred to us, as Miss V accepted the bank’s
offer of £200 in settlement, somewhat less than the
£5,000 she had originally asked for.
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38/2
standing order – customer intends to make only 10
monthly payments and complains after bank has made 13 payments
– bank says it followed her instruction to pay ‘until
further notice’
A teacher, Mrs B, agreed to buy a car from her colleague,
Mr M, for a total of £4,000. She gave him £3,000
in cash and arranged to pay the rest of what she owed him
in 10 monthly payments of £100. She set up a standing
order with her bank to make the payments to Mr M’s
account.
It was only after the bank had made 13 monthly payments
into Mr M’s account that Mrs B realised that there
was a problem. By that time, she’d fallen out with
Mr M, because the car had proved troublesome and costly
to repair and she didn’t think it had been worth what
she’d agreed to pay for it. She asked Mr M to pay
her back the extra £300 but he refused.
Mrs
B then complained to her bank. She asked it to refund the
three payments that she said it had made in error. The bank
denied that it had done anything wrong and it rejected her
complaint.
It
told Mrs B that it had known nothing of the underlying transaction,
so had no reason to suspect anything might be amiss. It
said it had simply followed her instructions, and it showed
her the standing order form she had completed and signed.
This said ‘pay Mr M £100 a month’,
and she had ticked the option indicating that payments should
continue ‘until further notice’.
complaint rejected
When she referred the complaint to us, Mrs B maintained
that, because she knew nothing about standing orders, she’d
relied on the bank to help her fill in the form. But her
bank statements made it clear that she’d set up standing
orders before, and there was nothing to show that she’d
asked the bank for any help before filling in the form in
question. We concluded that she had probably simply made
a mistake when filling in the form and was now trying to
blame the bank for her own error. We did not uphold her
complaint.
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38/3
direct debit – bank Y takes direct debit payments
from customer’s account with bank A – bank Y
ignores repeated reminders that it is taking the money from
the wrong account – customer’s repayments go
into arrears
Mrs G had two current accounts with bank A. She took out
a loan with a different bank – bank Y – and
arranged to repay it by direct debit payments from her ‘number
1 account’ with bank A. To begin with, all went according
to plan. But a few months later, Mrs G moved house. She
said she wrote to both banks, telling them her new address,
and asking that all future loan repayments should come from
her ‘number 2 account’ with bank A. At the time,
she believed both banks had received her letter, but bank
Y later said that it had never seen it.
When bank Y claimed the next loan repayment, bank A spotted
that it had mistakenly claimed the money from Mrs G’s
number 1 account. Bank A made sure the repayment was taken
from the number 2 account, and it wrote to bank Y to remind
it of Mrs G’s recent instruction.
However, bank Y ignored the letter from bank A and, for
the next six months, it continued to claim payments from
Mrs G’s number 1 account. Every month, bank A corrected
the payments, and it kept on asking bank Y to sort matters
out at its end.
On the seventh occasion, bank A failed to intervene to ensure
that the loan repayment was debited to the number 2 account.
And, because Mrs G did not have enough money in her number
1 account to cover the repayment, it was not paid. So Mrs
G’s loan fell into arrears.
Bank Y wrote to Mrs G about the missed payment. However,
it sent the letter to her old address, so she never received
it. The problem did not come to light until after bank Y
had registered the defaulted loan with the credit reference
agencies.
Mrs G then complained to both banks. Bank A, which had tried
to help throughout but had overlooked sorting out the seventh
wrongly-claimed payment, accepted responsibility for that
failure and offered Mrs G £200 in compensation.
But bank Y maintained that it had done nothing wrong. It
said it had not known that she had wanted to change her
instructions, or that she had moved house. Mrs G then referred
her complaint to us.
complaint upheld
When we looked into what had happened, we said that bank
A had not been under a primary obligation to keep on sorting
out bank Y’s mistakes. We told Mrs G that its offer
of compensation was generous, and that she should accept
it.
However, we thought that bank Y’s conduct had been
far from satisfactory. Even if it had not received Mrs G’s
original letter, it was stretching credibility too far for
it to say that it had not received any of bank A’s
repeated reminders.
So, provided that Mrs G made up the missing loan repayments
(which she was happy to do), we told bank Y to:
- refund
all charges and the additional interest it had levied
on the loan;
-
make sure the adverse credit reference agency entries
were removed; and
-
pay Mrs G £400 compensation for the distress and
inconvenience caused by its repeated errors.
Bank Y reluctantly agreed. But then it mistakenly paid her
the £400 twice – once to her number 1 account
and once to her number 2 account. It was Mrs G who spotted
the double payment, not the bank. She asked if it wanted
the surplus £400 back – but by that stage, it
seemed that bank Y was rather embarrassed by the whole affair,
so it told her she could keep it.
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38/4
direct debit – when customer complains, bank causes
confusion by telling him the direct debit is a standing
order
Mr K was the treasurer of a small charity. He set up a direct
debit to pay the service charge for the charity’s
office premises. The annual amount was £376.49, payable
quarterly in advance by means of three payments of £94.12,
and one of £94.13.
A few months later, after the landlord had claimed the higher
payment as the first of the quarterly instalments, Mr K
complained to the bank. He said he had expected the higher
payment to be claimed last, and that ‘although
the variation is only 1p, it is nonetheless of considerable
inconvenience to me because of book-keeping corrections.’
It later became clear that the landlord had explained to
the charity exactly what payments would be taken when. So
the bank had not done anything wrong.
However, in trying to deal with the complaint, the bank
told Mr K that the payment instruction was a standing order
(not a direct debit) and that the fault was all
his. It took the bank three attempts, and as many weeks,
to give Mr K a reasonable explanation – which, because
of the earlier confusion, he then either didn’t understand
or didn’t accept.
complaint
rejected
After we got involved, we spent some time explaining
the system to Mr K. But we also told the bank that because
of its basic misunderstanding at the outset, and its ineptitude
in trying to deal with such a simple matter, it should pay
the charity some compensation. It agreed to do so.
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